OS / [LEAF] Conflict (ENGLISH, to admin)

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From os-irish to 3talks admin

(Maybe someone on 3talks would be kind enough to translate this to cantonese)

1. Half the os members have jobs, are married, and play CSS for fun. I am a university professor. We play the game fairly. We do not disrespect other clans. We do not act like children.

2. OS have a rule list that all os members must follow. The os rules can be seen here ... [url]http://www.guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?GuildID=77675&ForumID=360064&TabID=670122&TopicID=2345121[/url]

please read rules 5 and 6

3. Eddie is lying if he says he never abuses anyone. Ask him about the months of abuse he gave MaDIrisH and Mother on Gameserver. Or the months of abuse LEAF clan members gave os members.

4. LEAF moved to 3talks because they could not beat os in the rankings. They did not want to be 2nd best. Eddie's posting proves that. LEAF did not move to 3talks because of "os abuse". They talk about mother killing bots to get number 1 but forget the other top10 players that were also os players .... or that Eddie was always on the server killing bots 24 hours a day. Mother has a job and can only play at night. So Eddie is trying to bad mouth mother for something he himself did. Eddie even used "os-mother" as his nickname while he was killing bots.

5. Iceman and Eddie collecting os IDs on other servers, to ban players who have never played on 3talks, shows very bad manners and the type of people they are.

6. 3talks is a public server. Why are LEAF being allowed to control it and decide which players can play on it and which can't. The admins should decide, not LEAF.

>>>>>>>7. os-father is NOT an os member. We don't know who he is. LOL! They are trying to ban a player who is not an os clan member just because he is using an os clan tag! More LEAF bad manners and how scared they are of os playing on 3talks.<<<<<<<

8. LEAF players who still play on Gameserver with os are never abused by us. Ask them. The os players who have gotten abused on 3talks don't retaliate, we just play the game. Why is the same not true for os players who play on 3talks? Which clan has no manners?

9. The os server is a clan server, not a public. We can do what we like, but still allow LEAF to play on it. Why do we do that if we hate them so much? We ban players for breaking the rules, not because of their clan.

10. Public servers are supposed to ban players for breaking the rules. If an os player breaks the rules on 3talks, they should be banned, but not for being os. Any admin who bans a player just because he is asked to, and who doesn't actually witness the player breaking the rules, isn't doing his/her job.

11. Ask any independent player if they have ever been abused by os or have seen os abuse others on other servers. The answer will be no.

12. The reaction of one provoked os player on a server is being used as evidence against the whole os clan. That is why LEAF keep mentioning it. It is the only time an os player decided he was tired of their abuse and decided to do something about it.

13. LEAF insulted us whenever we asked for a clan match. They said we were **** and worse. If LEAF had 10-12 members vs 2-3 os members on gameserver, they would give us abuse. If 5-6 os members joined, LEAF would run away and go to another server.

14. LEAF have never played a clan match, don't have a clan server, don't have a clan website and have no rules of conduct. LEAF players can do anything they like with no consequences. Even their leader breaks every rule os players follow. Should they even be called a clan?

os has 32 members at the moment. (Iceman will have to work harder to get all our IDs)

We have players asking to join os every week. These players must agree to the os rules of conduct before we consider their request. This is because we are respected on the servers we play on.

We don't recruit players who ask to join, they have to 1. pass a trial period to prove their skill, 2. prove they have the right attitude to the game and other players, and 3. register and agree to the os rules, first.

I and most of the clan will never play on 3talks as long as people like Iceman and Eddie are there. I don't respect them as players and I don't respect them as people. I know I'll always pwn them 1vs1 on other servers. They give their clan a bad name.

I don't care if you ban me but I DO CARE if you ban my clan mates just because they are os members. If this happens 3talks will have no honor.

I play where players respect each other and have fun. That is not 3talks as long as LEAF are allowed to run things and act how they please.

Who is lying? The university professor, or the teenage gangsters?

I invite the 3talks admins to play on servers where os players are playing. Come at any time, with any nickname (even LEAF), and watch how os players play the game. If you decide to use LEAF as your nickname, you'll find that no one abuses or insults you. But don't use Iceman or Eddie, those two names have no respect on servers where we play. This invitation is permanent.
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End of Irish's message.


The second I enter 3talks, Eddie start votekick agaisnt me... I never teamflash or teamkill... and he wants me kicked and banned?? You don't even go to spectator to make sure the reason you want us banned is true or not... all you do is take our STEAM ID and make admin ban us like we are worthless trash.

Before, we banned the [LEAF]- clan tag, because we don't want the LEAF players to be banned from one of the best custom maps servers in Hong Kong... we felt that was unfair. Now, we completely removed the ban, [LEAF] is free to play on our server with their tag, except for you, Eddie, cause all you do is cause trouble. The other LEAF members except for you and Iceman seem to be good people... when I play 3talks, ONLY you want me kicked... no other LEAF votekicked me. I think they actually have a brain / emotions to know that what you're doing is complete bull ****.

OS-Father is not even part of OS. You said to me "os is a ****ing clan because you teamflash and TK". Well, guess what? We never did anything like that. I only play CSS with them now... if they aren't on a server, I won't join it. They NEVER, and I mean NEVER do things like this. Anyone caught doing this would be banned from our clan server.

You make things up just to give OS a bad name because of a PERSONAL grudge. You hate us (for some reason I do not know why), so you make things up and tell your clan, Serum, and CLL about the bull **** "team flashing". Have ANY of you ever seen us do something like that? I thought so, no you didn't. You just follow Eddie because he is the leader, and you are the sheep. Serum| Winds hates OS, but he plays on our server. Ask him, do we ever teamflash? NO! We play fair, we aren't immature fools like yourself.

One of my OS clan members said that his friend was ex-LEAF. You know why he quit LEAF? He was tired of your lies and *****ing on the microphone.

So please, admin, rethink your decision of banning all os members because this idiot 影杀部Eddie just tells you to.

One day, I hope LEAF and OS will be friends again, without this ****ing bull **** spreading around.